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In which US+Canadian universities does promotion to "Associate Professor" imply tenure?

Make your contribution here: http://www.optimizelife.com/wiki/Does_promotion_imply_tenure

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Date: 2009-11-19 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psifenix.livejournal.com
I was under the impression that this differs from country to country.

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Date: 2009-11-19 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gustavolacerda.livejournal.com
It does. I'm referring to institutions in the US and Canada.

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Date: 2009-11-19 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easwaran.livejournal.com
I was going to say that this is true at basically every US university other than CMU.

Wikipedia says:
A decision to reject a candidate for tenure normally requires that the individual leave the institution within a year.

Otherwise, tenure is granted along with promotion from assistant to associate professor. Although tenure and promotion are usually separate decisions, they are often highly correlated such that a decision to grant a promotion coincides with a decision in favor of tenure, and vice versa.


I believe in the first few years Johan van Benthem was affiliated with Stanford, he was a full professor but didn't have tenure, probably because he was only present for one quarter out of the year.

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Date: 2009-11-19 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gustavolacerda.livejournal.com
apparently you didn't look at my wiki page.

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Date: 2009-11-20 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easwaran.livejournal.com
At Harvard and Johns Hopkins, is it standard for people to be promoted a few years before being granted tenure? I had been under the impression that at Harvard the two are normally basically simultaneous, while at CMU they are normally not simultaneous.

Should Stanford be on your list as a "no" because it has had at least one example of a person of higher rank without tenure? Or should it be on the list as a "yes" because in most cases they happen simultaneously?

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Date: 2009-11-20 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gustavolacerda.livejournal.com
At Harvard, yes. Here's an old source:
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1992/4/22/climbing-the-ladder-to-harvard-tenure/
<< Statistics indicate that only a small percentage of "ladder faculty"--Harvard's term for assistant and associate professors--go on to attain tenure. >>

Hopkins: I heard it second-hand.

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Date: 2009-11-20 12:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] easwaran.livejournal.com
I guess I was wrong about Harvard. I had known that the process for actually getting tenure there is stacked against junior candidates, but I hadn't realized that "associate professor" is a junior title there.

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Date: 2009-11-20 12:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gustavolacerda.livejournal.com
The list refers to typical full-time faculty.

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