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After much effort, this is what I got in my attempt to install xine.


[root@localhost gustavo]# rpm -U libstdc++34-devel-3.4.0-1.i386.rpm error: Failed dependencies:
libstdc++34 = 3.4.0-1 is needed by libstdc++34-devel-3.4.0-1


It seems regardless of how many packages I try to install, they always depend on something which I don't have. And even if I managed to find the right packages, it would be a pain in the ass.

Why the heck isn't this process automated? For how long am I going to be so hopeless with Linux?

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Date: 2004-05-10 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathemajician.livejournal.com
I take it you're not running either Debian or Gentoo?

With Gentoo in particular the system can sort itself out and automatically update everything etc...

With things like Red Hat it can be a real pain to do unless you do it all the time to really keep up to date.

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Date: 2004-05-10 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gustavolacerda.livejournal.com
huh? it's less of a pain if you do it all the time??

I'm running Fedora (i.e. Redhat Evil). Aren't there ways to change my system so as to allow those automatic processes? Would this necessarily make my system slackware?

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Date: 2004-05-10 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathemajician.livejournal.com
Well, the thing is that if you do it all the time then your system is mostly up to date. Thus when you want to upgrade something you only have to update a small number of modules. If you don't upgrade your system for six months and then try to upgrade something you'll have hundreds of modules that all need to be updated...

I don't know of ways to make Fedora to automatically update. I'm running Red Hat myself but I've just given up on keeping my system up to date. It's just too much pain. Usually what I do is just reinstall a completely new version of the operating system every year.

Debian has some nice systems to keep your machine up to date ("apt get" or something like that I think) which resolves all the dependencies and stuff. Gentoo linux is supposed to be the best of all, you just hit one button and the system goes off and automatically sorts everything out including optimising everything for your hardware setup and stuff. Next time I install Linux I'm going to try Gentoo --- but at the moment I can only tell you what I've heard from others rather than my own first hand experience.

or Slack + Dropline

Date: 2004-05-10 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jozefpronek.livejournal.com
Yes, gentoo and debian are really easy to update. Another solution, that I find excellent - after trying several different flavors of linux starting in 2000, in 2002 I found Slackware, which is much nicer than Red Hat. But the best, for me, is the combination Slackware + Dropline Gnome on top.

Dropline Gnome updates itself quite often, in a really painless way: it just downloads the updates and installs... really quickly.

Check out http://dropline.net/gnome

You will get all xine, plus totem, plus many other good packages.

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Date: 2004-05-10 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lo5an.livejournal.com
look at the "yum" command.

"""Yum is a utility that can check for and automatically download and
install updated RPM packages. Dependencies are obtained and downloaded
automatically prompting the user as necessary."""


I'm using the feodra legacy stuff with rh 7.3, but I'm pretty sure it's what is being used in fedora core as well. I like it so far.

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Date: 2004-05-10 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spritedreams.livejournal.com
you should use apt

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