Esperanto

Jun. 2nd, 2006 12:37 am
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Today I went to an introductory Esperanto lesson. I learned some German words too, as expected.

The people were 50+, seemed rather intelligent, and were quite enthusiastic about me being there, the token youngster... sehr viel freude. Too bad I have to disappoint them.

The room was long and narrow, and we sat around a long table: on one side were the "experts", who sometimes spoke to each other in Esperanto (4 people). There were about 7 people on my side. The speaker, who was naturally on the expert side, was looking at me the entire time as he gave the talk.

The first half of the "lesson" was about the history of Esperanto, and I think they sold it quite well. I met them a few weeks ago, at their booth in Marienplatz: I wonder how much success they have with this.

Anyway, I like the language. It's very easy indeed... Its compositionality makes it so that there is a small number of lexemes (i.e. word stems): this is even more pronounced than German.

It would be handy to have such an expressive language as a default even in one's first language, to get around tip-of-the-tongue sorts of problems (something I have a lot). I'm talking about things like morphemes such as "tool for", "one who makes", etc... this way you wouldn't have to ask "what do you call a person who does X?" before using that word in the next sentence. Instead, you would just say the second sentence at once, using the word "X-doer", and this would be perceived as possibly-unusual but acceptable.

I wanted to ask these people more stuff about the Esperanto community, conlanging, etc., but I had to run to meet with Matthias and Magnus.

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Date: 2006-06-02 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erotetica.livejournal.com
George Soros is a native Esparanto speaker, factfans!

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Date: 2006-06-02 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcreed.livejournal.com
Yeah, my experience with esperanto has been positive linguistically and ambiguous socially. I've found it hard to be comfortable talking to the people that are the most enthusiastic about e-o as a social goal per se, that everyone should speak it as a second language, but I still to this day (even though I don't speak or write it very often) find myself grasping for english equivalents of certain e-o morphemes that are extremely cognitively useful to have around. I think my favorites are -em-, -int-, -ec-, -igx- and the ability to cram any word into any part of speech you like.

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Date: 2006-06-02 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
how did you get into Esperanto? How fluent did you become?

I think it would be a very good thing if we all used a ConLang that made expression simpler and more concise... I do wonder if the brains of native NL speakers have to work harder than those of native Esperanto speakers... if so, this could relieve a significant burden, leaving us freer to think more, talk less, and spend less effort on expression and interpretation. ...kinda like Lisp does for programming.

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Date: 2006-06-02 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jcreed.livejournal.com
I had heard of it a long time ago through Michael Urban's hypercard tutorial on it (link goes to a web port) which I think I found on a BBS when I was maybe 10-12 years old or so.

I started trying to learn it seriously the summer of 2002 when I had just finished college took the summer off. I was fluent enough to use Pasporta Servo a couple times (and hosted someone once!) and have sensible (but not extremely deep or complicated) conversations in it. Reading news articles on gxangalo and books and so on is relatively easy for me still, but my speaking/listening ability has fallen off.

Saluton

Date: 2006-06-26 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blahma.livejournal.com
Hi, I don't happen to know you, but I accidentaly came across your page while searching the internet. As a young man and an Esperanto-speaker and young Esperanto activist for some three years already, I am pleased to learn about your first contacts with Esperanto, which have supposedly started quite recently - and even (as far as I get it) in some other country, probably Germany. Because of that, I thought I could just stop and say hello, and maybe give you tips for a few links on good websites on Esperanto-related topics. You might want to check out website such as www.lernu.net, www.tejo.org/ijk or www.esperanto.de/dej - and if you feel there is anything I could help you with in the field of Esperanto or similar things, feel free to just let me know (either here by posting a comment, though email would be prefered). Anyway, you may also check my LiveJournal in Esperanto at [livejournal.com profile] blahma ;-)

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